2010

Posted by SueAnne

June 15, 2010

Monday night’s #journchat covered a wide variety of topics – but there were several that centered on citizen journalism and the roles and responsibilities of people that might consider themselves journalists.

There was an overwhelming feeling by many participating on #journchat that many bloggers behave unethically when it comes accepting products, sponsorships or other endorsements without being upfront about what they’ve been given. This led to a discussion as to whether or not journalists should be accredited or need some sort of “gold seal” of approval and whether bloggers should be considered journalists.

My two top tweets of the night:

@foleymo: My strategy for #journchat: Get noticed by saying things that are seemingly outrageous, but actually on the nose.
@juanasummers @nikkiburdine Journalists should distinguish themselves by the quality of their work, not a card in their wallet. #journchat

Links shared:

First-time journchatters:

@journchat: Q1 PER @loringbarnes <edited> Are you concerned whether HARO will/won’t change? Part 2: Do you services like HARO, ProfNet? #journchat

@journchat: Background: HARO was recently acquired by ProfNet (disclosure: Cision is a chat sponsor) #journchat
@wvpmc: @journchat by ProfNet? thought it was Vocus that acquired HARO #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Q1P2: I haven’t used those services as a business journalist since I’m hardly at a loss for sources. Have other biz journos? #journchat
@juanasummers: Q1: From my experience, HARO has only delivered generic sources that don’t resonate well for local news coverage. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q1 Just had discussion in class about the selling/trade of brands. No problem as long as quality is same. #journchat
@loringbarnes: Q1: Did #VOCUS acquire #HARO to create a new revenue stream thru subscriptions a la Profnet? #journchat
@lizpope: Q1: I use HARO all the time, but its acquisition makes me wonder if it will become a paid service in the future #journchat
@juanasummers: Q1: That said, a similar service crafted for larger local media markets might be interesting and more valuable. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @juanasummers Do you often get, for a lack of a better word, “media whores” – ones who just like to hear themselves talk? #journchat
@nataliebinder: @juanasummers There’s probably some way to used location-based media to make a service like that work. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q1: HARO can only change for the better, the real question is will it become a premium service. #journchat
@FrancieGrace: #journchat Q1 HARO will change,but hopefully in a good way/Love HARO,a must-read & irresistible pulse-check on what folks are thinking about
@juanasummers: @amandanmarsh That’s exactly my problem with it. And though they like to hear themselves, they rarely say anything useful. #journchat
@jpbarley: @journchat I’m concerned HARO will change, good for @skydiver though….probably just the next evolutionary step #journchat
@becktold: #journchat: Actually, HARO was acquired by Vocus.
@nataliebinder: @amandanmarsh Well, since HARO advertises itself as “free publicity,” of course you’re going to get some hounds. #journchat
@Jfavreau: @fredmcclimans There was a 50-60% open rate for the HARO newsletter. #journchat
@skydiver: @jpbarley HARO WILL NOT change. I promise. #journchat. And hi everyone.
@katedavis12: Q1 At my last PR firm we used Profnet frequently and always kept an eye on HARO, both often had great results! #journchat
@Jfavreau: Q1- I don’t think @skydiver would have let it be acquired if he thought it was going to change. #journchat
@OregonPRGirl: Q1: It’s disheartening HARO was acquired by ProfNet. My biggest concern is that it will change to a paid subscription service. #journchat
@loringbarnes: Very pleased that editors, producers and journalists are here to offer their viewpoints! #journchat
@journchat: @skydiver Thanks for chiming in, Peter! #journchat
@wvpmc: @corinachevalier no – ProfNet is a subscription (paid) service #journchat
@OregonPRGirl: @fredmcclimans I use HARO frequently, and I’ve gotten some great ink out of it — both personally and professionally. #journchat
@corinachevalier: @katedavis12 Is Profnet free? #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q1: HARO is a really cool tool. I had an interview with it this week. I wish you could sign up for specific niches. #journchat
@katedavis12: @corinachevalier Not the service we were using. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @shmelanie Change at HARO will depend on what’s in @skydiver ‘s contract with Vocus. I’m sure Peter wants it to stay the same. #journchat
@juanasummers: @skydiver I might be in the minority here, I think HARO is probably due a few changes… #journchat
@missversatile: Q1) I don use any PR services as of yet so can’t comment. I do everything old style so far. #journchat
@loringbarnes: @fredmcclimans Hmmmm. $$$$$ ? #Journchat
@fredmcclimans: @OregonPRGirl Given your steady use of HARO, how do You view the change? #Journchat
@wvpmc: @fredmcclimans the more interesting question: what’s next for the wildly creative @skydiver#journchat
@amandanmarsh: @missversatile Being old school rocks – I still write out all of my interview notes, while most of my colleagues use laptops #journchat
@skiergrrl: Q1 I hope the concept of HARO doesn’t change, but I agree there could be some tech upgrades (better search, etc) #journchat
@KatyWrites: Hear, hear to old-school methodologies @amandanmarsh @missversatile. Love pen + paper! #journchat
@OregonPRGirl: @fredmcclimans It’s too soon to tell, but if the new company starts charging for the service, it would kill HARO as we know it. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @OregonPRGirl If the new company ever starts charging for HARO service, I’d bet you another free one will pop in its place #journchat
@podcaststeve: @fredmcclimans The more interesting question is what service can I invent and then sell for gazillions? #Journchat
@OregonPRGirl: @amandanmarsh True, but will the journalists follow? #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @podcaststeve I don’t know how many zeros there are in a gazillion, but I’m sure it’s plenty! #Journchat
@podcaststeve: @fredmcclimans I’m trying to put a containment vessel over the gazillions, but the zeroes keep leaking out. #Journchat

@journchat: Q2 If u were @DanGillmor, what would u say to the FTC tomorrow? “Subsidize open broadband, not journalists.” http://ow.ly/1Yudl #journchat

@nataliebinder: Q2 I think he should say exactly what he says in his article. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q2: So true, I’m no tech expert but products like the Ipad can’t work untill bb spreads. Bb should be everywhere like water. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q2 A more robust broadband infrastructure would be good for all, inc. journos. Rising tide lifts all boats. #journchat
@juanasummers: Q2: I’m concerned about the digital divide. I don’t want to only report for people who own iPads, use the Internet religiously. #journchat
@nataliebinder: @juanasummers IMHO, eventually computers like the iPad will be more affordable, common than desktops. #journchat
@corinachevalier: I wonder about catering to iPads and internet sometimes, especially when studies show that we are an aging population. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: Q2: I like his idea, but I agree with @juanasummers. What about the non-Internet users? Yes, their #s will wane, but for now? #journchat
@tatn: #journchat Q.2 Supporting BB allows more democratic access for all Americans, but it should not be used as a segue to subsidize journos.
@fredmcclimans: @amandanmarsh Using my iPad now for this chat while enjoying a cool one on the deck (and waiting for 12am Chinese call). #Journchat
@juanasummers: @nataliebinder Eventually, I agree with you. But in the meantime, we can’t forget those who aren’t tech-savvy/can’t afford it. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q2: Eventually devices such as the iPad will replace desktops and laptops as we know them. Transition always brings controversy #journchat
@podcaststeve: Q2: I don’t think we want to get the govt in the biz of subsidizing journos. How much $ wud the BP oil story get, ya think? #journchat
@bropo: Q2: on the other hand, there are more ways of facilitating BB than just pipe. Look at the 3rd world & most of us: wireless key. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @SherriJonesPR The devices will have to be an upgrade from iPad in order to achieve that. People need the ability to multitask. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Broadband matters. Ask Israel. Apple iPad banned in Israel – CSMonitor.com: http://bit.ly/95zXZ1#journchat
@nataliebinder: I do tech education at a #library. My older patrons, fellow librarians love the iPad. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @amandanmarsh very true but this is only the first generation, I’m sure spin offs of the device and upgrades will address that #journchat
@centsiblelife: @corinachevalier aging yes but largest growing age group on fb is 50-65 yo women. #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q2: Broadband is key, I’d like to be paid to write, but i know that more people with internet access is vital to economy #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @pathwaypr The Ipad is also banned on some college campuses because it eats broadband. #journchat
@aglicksman: I’m trying to get one! RT @nataliebinder I do tech education at a #library. My older patrons, fellow librarians love the iPad. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Right–we might be better of putting $, into wireless & 4G service than cable. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @KristenEJ Q2 ‘net axs will eventually be universal, like dial tone. But then who pays for the content? #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @SherriJonesPR You are correct! “pads etc” are the future. Journos MUST learn to take advantage of their capabilities or fade… #Journchat
@logsmthd: Absolutely. RT @nataliebinder: Right–we might be better of putting $, into wireless & 4G service than cable. #journchat
@bropo: No “might” there. RT @nataliebinder: Right–we might be better of putting $, into wireless & 4G service than cable. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @fredmcclimans definitely! We have to be flexible and adjust to the tech times #journchat
@elissapr: I didn’t know that! RT @SaraBAllen @pathwaypr The Ipad is also banned on some college campuses because it eats broadband. #journchat
@KristenEJ: @tatn -yeah, we have too many ppl who still don’t have it, if we go all digital, too many will b left behind w/ no broadband #journchat
@atwittysend: Think we’re upset since new media. Happens in TV, Movies & Mags all the time w/o disclosure. Unfortunate – likely here to stay. #Journchat
@podcaststeve: @KristenEJ Already happening. AOL becoming news producer, Yahoo, Google. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @sherise_a Schools run on servers (she thinks) and if everyone Ipads it up the server would be slow or crash. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: @atwittysend Yes, but TV & movies are usually considered entertainment; blogs are that happy (or unhappy) in-between. #journchat
@KristenEJ: @podcaststeve – I saw that, I’ve signed up with one of the AOL freelance services #journchat
@jimmcbee: @sarahzcordell Aye. Just add a line item to the news budget. Oh, wait …. #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB: Q2: #journchat I too am unsure of whether or not the gov’t should be dabbling in the “reinvention of journalism” but we must evolve
@SaraBAllen: @sherise_a I’m told it eats tons of data and slows down networks. Broafband infastructure is a big deal. http://bit.ly/9xPw5I #journchat
@nikkiburdine: AOL hiring lots of reporters now too. RT @podcaststeve: @KristenEJ Already happening. AOL becoming news producer, Yahoo, Google. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: govt already dabbles enuf RT @missversatile @juanasummers @skiergrrl Q2: question whether govt should dabble n reinventing journ #journchat
@AsianStig: @journchat Q2 Dear FCC, please stay out of the broadband business. The free market will eventually lower costs for all users. #journchat

@journchat: Q4 PER @loringbarnes <EDITED>: What do you think about product placement/gift debate in blogs?http://ow.ly/1Yure #journchat

@podcaststeve: @journchat Q4: ok if they disclose. Not ok if they don’t admit getting freebies. Even if don’t consider selves “press” #journchat
@notblue: @journchat What happened to Q3? Or is that the product placement one? #journchat
@tomhanaway: Q4: Just like print journalism, writers need to be transparent and honest. If your piece is advert-tainment, say it #journchat
@sarahzcordell: Q4: Since many (not all) bloggers don’t have a journo background, I think the FTC’s action is valid. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q3:biggest rift with sponsorships is that people try to break into the journo world with wrong intentions just to get “stuff” #journchat
@sarahzcordell: Q4 (Part 2): FTC’s action helps clarify the conversation; u know if you’re reading an honest or potentially influenced decision. #journchat
@transpr: Q4 If folks who read blogs don’t like, they don’t have to read. Like any forum, authors need to be clear upfront. #journchat
@elissapr: Q4 IMO it provides clarity with respect to possible bias of opinion. #journchat
@lizpope: Q4: As long as there’s full disclosure, I don’t have a problem with product placement in blogs #journchat
@KatyWrites: Q4: I don’t mind product placement/gifts but MUST disclose. Also think placement should fit w/ blog’s original voice/purpose. #journchat
@notblue: @journchat Q3(?) I think disclosure is the most important thing. If you’re sent a computer to review, you MUST disclose it. #journchat
@bizMebizgal: Agreed! RT @tomhanawayJust like print journalism, writers need to be transparent/ honest. If ur piece is advert-tainment, say it #journchat
@logsmthd: Q3: Disclosure of sponsorships is of utmost importance. Bloggers need to honest w/ readers, since considered citizen journalists. #journchat
@pathwaypr: Q4. Becoming big problem for all. Where to draw the line. Many bloggers want “payment” and willing to get publicly angry over it #journchat
@shmelanie: Q4: I don’t mind product placement in blogs (w/ disclosure)… tweets on the other hand… #journchat
@sherise_a: YES! RT @tomhanaway:…like print journalism, writers need to be transparent and honest. If your piece is advert-tainment, say it #journchat
@elissapr: @lizpope I agree as the blogger may have something of value to say about the product – either good or bad. #journchat
@wvpmc: Q3 If blog is the biz, product placement/gifts/giveaways ok, but must disclose – transparency critical #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q4: Product placement is good, when there are fair judgments made on products. doing too much of one thing(+ or -) is bad #journchat
@jimmcbee: Re q3: Readers just gotta keep getting more skeptical all the time. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: @jimmcbee Maybe we should spend as much time created skeptical readers as we do worrying about clarity in journalism! #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q3. It’s also good policy to have a written statement on your blog re: endorsements. #journchat
@bropo: Q3/4: (WTQ??) therein lies one of the issues with “citizen journalism” vs. pros: send me something free and I’ll write about it. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q3: if one accepts sponsors they should def disclose that so readers can be aware, what they do after shouldn’t be our concern #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q3: The best advice I’ve heard on blogging is, “Don’t write what you don’t want to read.” AKA advertainments #journchat
@aglicksman: Q4 Bloggers: full disclosure is required. No product placement – let your readers know if you received item to review #journchat
@elissapr: Q4 Consumers generally don’t care if you disclose; they do care if you*re seen as pulling the wool over they eyes. #journchat
@centsiblelife: Q4: as a bloggeb I always disclose. I probably overdisclose but readers like that. #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @journchat NO NO NO NO! Zero use for sponsored blogvertisements! #Journchat
@MediaCollective: Don’t we all make a income? Tangible/virtual? more important w/b Politicians full position disclosures in media ie Gifts #journchat
@pathwaypr: Exactly. RT @bropo: one of the issues with “citizen journalism” vs. pros: send me something free and Ill write about it. #journchat
@evannicholson: Q3: Blogs are written by citizen journalists. They should still be unbiased. Product placement isn’t exactly unbiased. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q3: clearly a sponsorship is going to taint the info (intentionally or unintentionally) #journchat
@niltiac: Q4 I don’t judge (disclosed) product placement on moral basis . I judge on quality basis. I don’t want to read it. Devalues blog. #journchat
@WriterChanelle: Q4. If you make it clear through disclosure, it’s not a problem. Some bloggers need to monetize #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: Re: disclosure – all my product reviews have a disclosure. I actually refuse offers of free products and buy my own to review #journchat
@bropo: Thot this was the benefit of living in transparency! RT @jimmcbee: q3 Readers just gotta keep getting more skeptical…. #journchat
@elissapr: @centsiblelife Agree! Being upfront with your readers garners trust. #journchat
@lizpope: @elissapr Yes, especially if it’s meaningful, like a mommy blogger reviewing a product that could benefit her readers. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Everyone writes about free stuff. I have to believe that even (especially?) popular tech blogs get demo models. #journchat
@centsiblelife: Product placment and sponsorship should be done in a natural way. If it doesn’t fit into life naturally it feels odd. #journchat
@jimmcbee: @bropo Do readers actually appreciate transparency? I mean, have there been studies? Does it pay, in other words? #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson Is it journalism or entertainment? How do you feel about product placement in a James Bond movie? #journchat
@meganhealey: Agreed! RT @amandanmarsh: Q4: Bloggers must be upfront about sponsorships. Those who tweet/blog about products get deleted. #journchat
@sherise_a: golden rule RT @SaraBAllen: Q3: best advice Ive heard on blogging is, “Dont write what you dont want to read.” AKA advertainments #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: Q3: I don’t believe sponsorship has to “taint” a blogger’s opinion. That’s too much of an assumption #journchat
@andrewmfahey: Q4 unfortunately in todays world, the internet provides a lack of identity and full disclosure is not a top priority to many #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: Sponsorship makes sense if there is alignment in values and vision #journchat
@podcaststeve: @MediaCollective SPJ ethics would say you can’t be impartial if you accept freebie products. That’s not yr pay if u r journo. #journchat
@wvpmc: @nataliebinder free stuff to review different than paid to review IMHO – if paid, should be disclosed #journchat
@centsiblelife: @TwinToddlersDad no reason to refuse free product. You are advertising for them for free. Seek companies who have prods you use. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @TwinToddlersDad so if someone is paying you to write about something you wouldn’t hesitate to speak ill of the product/service? #journchat
@NathanRKing: I tend to ignore most blog posts that state they are product placements #journchat
@tomhanaway: Q3 For me, it never feels natural… RT @centsiblelife: Product placment and sponsorship should be done in a natural way … #journchat
@bropo: Q3: it’s an entirely different issue if you are a reviewer, you’re sent a product for that purpose & note right up front. #journchat
@fmccaul: Q4 If you have to give a gift, you didn’t really earn the mention. But if you’re going to give or receive, you gotta disclose. #journchat
@bropo: @jimmcbee Transparency is we are, or should be. The benefit of that is knowing where info comes from. Challenges are obvious. #journchat
@missversatile: Q3) or maybe Q4) No problem having product placement etc like TV as long as it is public info that blog contains such practices. #journchat
@elissapr: Q4 Even if gift is disclosed, there is the potential for negative reviews, it’s the chance a company must take. #journchat
@dannybrown: RE. Q4/Q3: Simple way to deal. If you’re not going to disclose, don’t take sponsorship or paid promotion. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @bizMebizgal evry1 gts free stuff; no 1 has budget 2 buy products to review. Key is disclosing it. Readers decide gud writing #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @centsiblelife I agree. I have reviewed products that we personally use #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @elissapr Very few people will give an honest review of a gift. Pubs should buy the stuff they want to review at full price. #journchat
@bropo: @jimmcbee And, of course, that is the major issue with the SCOTUS decision on corporate campaign funding, on both sides of issue. #journchat
@centsiblelife: @lizpope @elissapr exactly. One you use in everyday life or crafting a way to talk about it in an unusual way is an art. #journchat
@shmelanie: @NathanRKing Me too, but if the blogger has proven that they are objective I try not to pre-judge a post. #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @SherriJonesPR Not everything is bad, not everything is good. when you write a review, you should provide a broad perspective #journchat
@artistatlarge: Fake Q4: I don’t understand the debate. Magazine reviews forever (before blogs) usually received free swag for review. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Honesty is the best policy. Like our moms told us. Anonymity/ small size doesn’t remove ethical obligations. #journchat
@transpr: Q3 As a journalist, I wasn’t allowed nor did I take free products, regardless if I wrote about them or not. Are rules same now? #journchat
@Sue_Anne: Q3: I like @louisgray‘s policy. He’ll review items and after he’s done, he either sends them back or calls to find out price #journchat
@skiergrrl: Q3: Product placement happens every day:TV, movies, trad media. So, why is new media the focus? Everyone shld be transparent #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB: Q4 DISCLOSURE is the key along with an unbiased review and anything less than that will ruin one’s credibility #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @skiergrrl I believe there is a belief that companies are taking a shortcut to biased reviews via blogs #journchat
@meganhealey: Q3: My station has a $$$ limit to what we can receive in terms of “freebies.” As u can guess, that $ amount is pretty small. #journchat
@artistatlarge: Fake Q4: Book reviewers have always received free advance copies to write their reviews. Movie reviewers get free screenings. #journchat
@bizMebizgal: Where do products advertise w/ satellite radio, DVR’s, blogs. There needs to be a media where they can go blogs cater perfectly. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @elissapr Mommy bloggers are notorious for suggesting stuff their kids or they got for free. #journchat
@MediaCollective: @podcaststeve I think a majority have integrity and take their topics seriously, a few bad apples, most disclose #journchat
@nikkiburdine: @podcaststeve Very true. And not enough security or credibility in the news org you are working for, IMO. #journchat
@artistatlarge: @SaraBAllen I’ve worked in Book Pub PR and reviewers are not expected to return books. … #journchat
@centsiblelife: @wvpmc @nataliebinder paid & review shouldn’t be in the same sentence. Use ads, campaigns, giveaways for $ instead #journchat
@aglicksman: Dealing with this at work RT @elissapr Q4 Even if gift is disclosed, potential for negative reviews, chance a company must take #journchat
@nataliebinder: FTC already has rules about blogging endorsements, testimonials: http://bit.ly/9KMWI #journchat
@loringbarnes: Q3 (4): How to bal sponsor $ event funding to bring issue/brand to journalist attn, but sponsor can be deterrent. #journchat
@jensenmary30: Q3: My station has a $$$ limit to what we can receive in terms of “freebies.” As u can guess, that $ amount is pretty small. #journchat
@bropo: Zakly! That works! RT @elissapr: Q4 Even if gift is disclosed, there is the potential for neg reviews; chance a co must take. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @MediaCollective Not so sure it’s a majority. Some bloggers don’t consider themselves “media” don’t feel any ethical dilemma. #journchat
@wvpmc: @NathanRKing good cross marketing- if biz being reviewed in mag, hope it’s positive + place an ad #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: I am curious -does Consumer Reports buy the products they write about or get “freebies”? What makes them so trusted #journchat
@loringbarnes: Q3 (4): Being transparent great, but recently had top journalist request “gift” to consider coverage of event. Ethical? #journchat
@nikkiburdine: Q3 bloggers, without journalism background, are typically no more than fluff to me. No credibility. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: SO COMMON ditto. RT @NathanRKing: I hate seeing a restaurant reviewed in a publication they are #advertising in. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @artistatlarge My editors always never have to buy books. It looks amazing. #journchat
@bropo: 2 much of a discount. Shift happeng. RT @nikkiburdine: Q3 bloggers, without journalism background, are no more than fluff to me. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @nataliebinder But that begs the question – do the Girl Scout cookies count as product placement, as per Q3? #journchat
@bropo: NO! RT @loringbarnes: Q3 (4): Being transparent gr8, but recently had top journ req “gift” to consider cover’g of event. Ethical? #journchat
@AsianStig: @journchat Q3 as long as there is full and open disclosure, product placement is welcome in blogs. Ads pay journalism’s bills. #journchat
@thorstone137: Howdy! #journchat Q3 The FTC published final guidelines governing endorsements and testimonials last Oct. http://bit.ly/9KMWI
@SaraBAllen: @artistatlarge They usually have to return the swag. Mags have interns to send back all the clothes they review. #journchat
@elissapr: @SaraBAllen Yes tho’ @lizpope makes a good point re mommy bloggers reviewing products; generally very fair IMO #journchat
@pathwaypr: @transpr I think the question is what bloggers are allowed. Proabably why FCC trying to move in #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @TwinToddlersDad not all bloggers have that moral voice of reason that comes across in your tweets. I really respect that! #journchat
@podcaststeve: @NikkiBurdine Problem w/all of these, writer works a lot for free before page views generate a few pennies of revenue. #journchat
@centsiblelife: @tomhanaway then it’s not 4 u. Want a great example try looking @VelveteenMind‘s posts. Lovely writing, stories and sponsors. #journchat
@elissapr: @aglicksman on the reviewing side or the gifting side?? #journchat
@lizpope: @SaraBAllen Mommy bloggers who disclose have better credibility. My fav @jessicagottlieb says it like it is. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: ditto. RT @NathanRKing: I hate seeing a restaurant reviewed in a publication they are #advertising in. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: @loringbarnes Q 3 (4) NO! Makes me sad/frustrated… #journchat
@elissapr: @podcaststeve Q4 Interesting! How do u decide to disclose if blogger doesn’t feel they’re media, just a voice in the wilderness? #journchat
@podcaststeve: @elissapr Bloggers self describe. Many will say outfront, I’m not media, don’t apply those rules to me. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @nikkiburdine some bloggers automatically assume they are journalists, the lines have been blurred! #journchat
@shmelanie: Agreed, editorial is separate RT @wvpmc: @NathanRKing good cross marketing- if biz reviewed in mag, hope it’s positive + place ad #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac For blogs, it should be journalism. Author should disclose the product placement. #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson 2nd-rate rags might do pay for play in news story. But they won’t disclose it! & it’s not the writer who benefits. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: @SherriJonesPR Agreed! I fully support a law to license journalists: http://tinyurl.com/2v8b9z9#journchat
@bropo: @NathanRKing Companies often want to make sure they’re advertising if there’s editorial, rather than vice versa. #journchat
@OregonPRGirl: @TwinToddlersDad Consumer Reports is trusted because they don’t accept any paid advertising; I assume that includes no freebies. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac A movie is entertainment. Can you disclose in a movie? Perhaps in the credits? #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @OregonPRGirl Thanks. I thought so, but was not sure. I think the are so good that people pay to read what they have to say #journchat
@meganhealey: So annoying! RT @SherriJonesPR: @nikkiburdine some bloggers automatically assume they r journalists, the lines have been blurred! #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson Some blogs are journalism and some are not. Just like some TV shows are journalism and some are entertainment. #journchat
@karamat: @amandanmarsh @amandamarsh What about when the Girl Scouts bring the cookies into the newsroom so the anchors talk abt them? #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson I’m not arguing against disclosure but I find the comparison to journalism silly. No product placement in news. #journchat
@JummyWTKR: @NikkiBurdine @centsiblelife I think all journalists can be bloggers, but not all bloggers are journalists #journchat
@MediaCollective: @podcaststeve you get bad apples everry bunch,, peeps w/agenda’s- if they w2 survive long term, better get it right & straightUp #journchat
@meganhealey: Me too. We are #FCC licensed for a reason. RT @nikkiburdine I fully support a law to license journalists: http://bit.ly/a9kyZt #journchat
@patrickbjohnson: So true! RT @JummyWTKR: I think all journalists can be bloggers, but not all bloggers are journalists #journchat
@jfouts: Wow, th vibe on #Journchat seems a little rough tonight. Anti-blogger and for licensing journalists? Interesting.
@centsiblelife: @podcaststeve @elissapr funny thing- I sat at a table that said bloggers and press today. Sounds right to me. #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB: 1 dsn’t = the other RT @SherriJonesPR @nikkiburdine some bloggers auto assume they are journalists, the lines have been blurred! #journchat
@karamat: @meganhealey @nikkiburdine Not all “journalists” are “journalists.” There would be a lot fewer anchors if had to be licensed. #journchat
@HauteFlash: @juanasummers That’s a good point. I know passion doesn’t always = quality #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac No product placement in news? What about reporters covering a publication’s advertiser? That’s prod. plac. for sure! #journchat
@elissapr: @centsiblelife @podcaststeve LOL! I wonder what the press people thought about THAT! #journchat
@karamat: @meganhealey @nikkiburdine Not to mention commentators — who aren’t journalists in the 1st place. #journchat
@bropo: Makes sense: all about output. RT @centsiblelife: funny thing-I sat at a table that said bloggers and press today. Sounds right. #journchat
@jimmcbee: I refuse to distinguish between bloggers, ‘real’ journalists. Either you’re good n trustworthy, or you ain’t. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @elissapr @centsiblelife Bloggers shud b treated as media. Access, credentials, whatever, but manage expctations re output. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac Also, if going to cover a product, at that point, I think it should become journalism. Therefore, disclosure needed. #journchat
@bropo: Interesting edit. RT @jfouts: Wow, vibe on #Journchat seems a little rough 2night. Anti-blogger/for licensing journalists? #journchat
@meganhealey: @got4hooves @NikkiBurdine It’s a harder line to draw with #print. With #TV, licensing very simple! #journchat
@jeremymlong: How would a law licensing journalists affect freelancers? #journchat
@meganhealey: @karamat That’s fine. I’d be happy to go thru extra work/school to be licensed. Much like #AMSseals for our weather folks. #journchat
@jeremymlong: @MeganHealey @nikkiburdine But how would licensing work in the print sector and for freelancers? #journchat
@nikkiburdine: @jeremymlong It shouldn’t be different. You are a journalist, no matter what platform, you have a license. #journchat
@niltiac @evannicholson But I don’t see how the argument is connected to journalism. The producers of a Bond film should disclose PP too. #journchat
@lucyl80 I am curious – does Consumer Reports buy the products they write about or get “freebies”? What makes them so trusted #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson Not all PP is about “covering product”. It can be a subtle mention like a prop in a movie. I’ll give an example. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac Of course not all PP is product coverage. But if going to mention it & reason for it, should be disclosed. #journchat

@journchat: Q4 (The real Q4) If applicable: Part 1: Where do your parents currently get their news? Part 2: What about your grandparents? #journchat

@HauteFlash: Q4 My mom gets all her info from the telly and newspaper. My daughter gets hers online #journchat#journchat
@sarahzcordell: Q4 part 1: the newspaper. part 2: was the TV. #journchat
@KatyWrites: Q4: Parents + g-ma are newspaper readers. Also watch p.m. local news. In fact, can’t even talk to dad when he’s reading! #journchat
@karamat: @journchat Q4 Considering my grandparents have all passed away, I’m not sure. Mom gets news from combo of newspaper/local news. #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q4(2): Mom gets it from cable news, paper and local TV, Grandmother is local news and local(very small market) paper #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q4: (1)Parents read the newspaper faithfully/ may peek at MSN homepage and click around (2) grands read the paper/listen to radio #journchat
@NathanRKing: Q4: My parents/grandparents get their news from traditional sources: tv, news and radio. They cannot be reached via blogs. #journchat
@shmelanie: Q4: Parents = Internet, some TV; Grandparents = TV/Newspaper – no internet #journchat
@logsmthd: Q4: The Internet. Parents stopped getting the newspaper delivered and have switched to online. #journchat
@tatn: #journchat Q.4 Part 1: Printed NYT, TV, & occasionally web. Part 2: N/A though I’ve encouraged & shown them how to read more online
@karamat: @journchat Q4 And I forgot: radio. #journchat
@katedavis12: Q4 My ‘rents watch political news allll daaay looong. Boring. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q4. Parents get news from TV, the Internet. #journchat
@juanasummers: Q4: I report in the market my parents live in, so they get local news from me. They’re more likely to watch cable news networks. #journchat
@bropo: Q4: I’ll give you my husband, same demo. Now gets info from Internet … TOO much. Teaching to X-reference sources. #journchat
@jessicamalnik: Q4: My parents get the news from a combo of newspaper & online. Part 2: my grandma gets news from TV, not computer literate. #journchat
@ruthangel: Q4: Parents & grandparents – newspaper and TV, little internet if any ; Me – some TV and newspaper but more Internet #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q4:Mom is starting to read rr’s news on the front page and also educational news and blogs(she teaches middle school) #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @journchat Q4 My parents get their news via online and via TV, grandparents via ouija board. #Journchat
@transpr: Q4 CNN for mom. Grandparents got it from neighbors or local paper. Me, 80-90% online. #journchat
@juanasummers: Q4: My parents, who are in their late 40s, say local media doesn’t get the job done. They don’t read the paper, watch local news. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Q4P1: TV and newspaper, and online; Q4P2: TV and newspaper. Neither have changed in the past decade. #journchat
@sherise_a: #journchat Oh and how can I forget. Word of mouth is a huge part of my parent’s real life news feed. Helps them weed out boring stories.
@fmccaul: Q4 My folks get news via print @ajc & @wsj, also TV and some web. #journchat
@NathanRKing: Q4. My parents tend to use internet more for research (health, recipes, fitness, etc) #journchat
@bizMebizgal: Q4: Dad: newspaper and TV, Mom: Internet, Grandparents: newspaper, Me: Internet, paper #journchat
@tomhanaway: Q4: Mom = Newspaper/TV. Dad = Newspaper/Internet. Brother = The Daily Show (Sigh). #journchat
@transpr: Luv this! Be your own newsroom! RT @juanasummers: Q4: I report in the market my parents live in, so they get local news from me. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: Parents get news from Fox, Local TV or newspaper. Q4: Part 1: Where do your parents currently get their news? #journchat
@MediaCollective: Q4 (The real Q4) If applicable: Part 1: Where do your parents currently get their news? Part 2: What about your grandparents? #journchat
@thorstone137: Q4 1) Online and newspapers. 2) Newspapers. #journchat
@bropo: Quija=more relevant! RT @fredmcclimans: @journchat Q4 My parents get their news via online and via TV, gp’s via ouija board. #journchat
@juanasummers: @nataliebinder Thanks for including age. I think that probably makes a huge difference on how parents, grandparents consume news #journchat
@aglicksman: Q4: Parents get news from newspapers (online and print), television, radio. Grandparents from newspaper, television, radio #journchat
@KristenEJ: @elissapr -there’s hope, my mom was on Fox, till it got too unbearable, even during the Shep Smith hour #journchat
@NathanRKing: I hate seeing a restaurant reviewed in a publication they are #advertising in. #journchat
@corettajackson: Q4 1) tech savvy parents- mobile/apps #journchat
@Jfavreau: Q4 I think my Dad gets his news from the tv and Internet. My Godmother who is the same age I think gets it from NPR. #journchat
@HauteFlash: Q4 Just realized, I AM the parent, so I’d go with the Internet as my source for news. #journchat#journchat
@MediaCollective: Q4 parents are multimedia consumers online, off but also community participants, Grandparents have the best source, heaven #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q4: Mom is mid 50′s, Grandma is mid 80′s #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB: Q4: Mom: t.v, word of mouth, newspaper & lastly the internet (if I’m around) Grandmother: newspapers 1st and t.v 2nd #journchat
@meganhealey: Q4: Parents get news from local TV (not mine tho) and local paper. Grandma same (also #FoxNewsin her older years). #journchat
@artistatlarge: Q4: Parents get their news from CNN 24/7 & read local paper. #journchat
@evannicholson: Q4: Part 1- Parents watch the news on TV every day, read the newspapers sometimes. #journchat
@richardfeindel: @journchat Q4 PT1 (continued) father is 65, barely knows how to use a computer, but completely understands the iPhone UI. #journchat
@elissapr: LOL RT @bropo Ouija=more relevant! @fredmccliman: @journchat Q4 parents get news via online and via TV, gp’s via ouija board. #journchat
@tomhanaway: My mom can’t even text!! Wow. RT @corettajackson: Q4 1) tech savvy parents- mobile/apps #journchat
@evannicholson: Q4: Dad recently discovered the internet, and gets news online daily. #journchat
@jessicamalnik: @richardfeindel Q4: Wow! That’s interesting. Completely iPhone literate, but can’t use a computer. #journchat
@meganhealey: Q4 addendum: Also, my Mom hates her local #Gannett newspaper, yet still subscribes. Why?!? #journchat
@LCaCera_PR: @journchat Q4 My mom still has to tune into the local news everynight! My father was an avid newspaper reader. #journchat
@elissapr: @KristenEJ Oh thank gawd…it’s getting a bit unbearable! (re Mom on FOX!)#journchat
@centsiblelife: Q4 #journchat mom and dad: tv, paper Grandparent: tv
@UngerKate: Q4 My mom gets her news from the website of our local paper and my dad…well, I’m pretty sure he gets the news from my mom. #journchat
@logsmthd: Q4: I can’t remember the last time I turned to the Examiner for info on my community versus local publications. #journchat
@tomhanaway: Haha! Very true, parents are suffocating w/out txting 24/7! RT @fmccaul: @tomhanaway My mom just learned to text, so help me #journchat
@michaelcalienes: Q4 Parents: CNN; Grandparents: dead. #journchat
@AsianStig: @journchat Q4 my parents get news from TV and NPR. I personally haven’t seen my grandparents get any form of news. #journchat
@loringbarnes: Q4: Curiously, politics drives my parents’ media preferences, which contradicts non-partisanship. Right=@Foxnews #journchat
@podcaststeve: @NikkiBurdine I’ve got an examiner.com gig. I could spend an 8 hour day writing and not make a penny. I hv better uses for time. #journchat
@jimmcbee: @meganhealey People love to hate their local paper. But w 24 hr news on internet/cable, it’s becoming more of a luxury. #journchat
@fmccaul: @tomhanaway that’s not a bad thing. My mom just learned to text, so help me #journchat
@transpr: @fredmcclimans Agree. See, they are slower getting to online, but can afford it right now. #journchat

@journchat: Q5 PER @amandanmarsh Do you believe hyperlocal news sites like Patch.com and Examiner will neg. affect community/regional pubs? #journchat

@karamat: @journchat Q5 No, I think it will take them to task & force them to be more accountable in their own backyards. #journchat
@jfouts: Q5 #Journchat not really if local pubs have blogs too.
@podcaststeve: Q5 Hyperlocal is future o’local news. Don’t need local ppr filled w/AP stories. I do need to know wht local govt is hiding frm me #journchat
@Jfavreau: Q5 No I believe the local pubs are niche and it seems like a certain demo reads them. I am not one of them. I need to more. #journchat
@patrickbjohnson: Q5 No. Could show the benefit of being so local. Proving the quality of localized journalism versus first on a story. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: Q5: haven’t spent much time on either site, so I don’t think I can comment. Or maybe that’s an answer! #journchat
@dannybrown: Q5: Why can’t they integrate? Use hyper-local knowledge to extend and complement local national stories #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @dannybrown Re Q5: I think being “hyperlocal” in news is dangerous; will likely breed isolationism #journchat
@transpr: Q5 Impact of new media will be less felt on local/niche print pubs than larger print pubs. Locals and niche doing OK. #journchat
@wvpmc: Q5 no – trad local print coexisting with new local online but seeing more socmed use by print for breaking news #journchat
@NathanRKing: Q5. Hyperlocal news sites have the ability to be relevant to nearby people, but they still need to be credible journalists. #journchat
@juanasummers: Q5: I think it brings more people in neighborhoods and cities into the conversation and daily news flow. Nothing wrong with that. #journchat
@oscarmartinez: Q5: Only if they’re truly local and can fund content creation (vs. simple aggregation) #journchat
@juanasummers: Q5: That said, I have some skepticism around the Examiner model and am not sure it’s the best to engage at a hyperlocal level. #journchat
@dannybrown: @TwinToddlersDad Only if you have bad editors who can’t separate local bias from actual news #journchat
@HauteFlash: Q5 I’ve worked with Examiner.com There is a lot to be said for writing about a local topic about which you’re passionate. #journchat
@elissapr: Q5 just visited Patch for 1st time; it’s like a nat’l aggregate for local news; making it hyper-nationally-local??! #journchat
@fredmcclimans: Q5 Whoever has the best local coverage, community trust and ADVERTIZING DOLLARS will win. #journchat
@logsmthd: Q5: Not really. I turn to each for different things. Local pubs have information on my community & hyperlocal has larger focus. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q5:local news sites won’t affect community/regional pubs anytime b/c these local pubs are tangible staples within communities #journchat
@TwinToddlersDad: @dannybrown I am sure there is a “normal” distribution among editors; there is a long tail at both ends #journchat
@juanasummers: @HauteFlash I agree that passion’s a great thing, but there’s also something to be said from not being too attached to a subject. #journchat
@allanschoenberg: Agree! RT @dannybrown: Q5: Why can’t they integrate? Use hyper-local knowledge to extend and complement local national stories #journchat
@tomhanaway: It seems super shady to me RT @juanasummers: Q5: That said, I have some skepticism around the Examiner model #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q5, My local paper covers Girl Scout cookies, b-days at the senior center. Wouldn’t be the same online. #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q5: Not to be a hater but I can’t take the Examiner seriously. Nor have I been to patch.com Nor do I want to go. #journchat
@podcaststeve: Writers won’t write if there’s no $. Demand Studios, AOL, Examiner, all sweatships. RT @oscarmartinez: …fund content creation #journchat
@tatn: #journchat Q.5 I think hyper-local news such as examiner.com & patch.com serve their purposes for the community & niche market.
@elissapr: @transpr True – community newsps are also still best vehicles for local advertising. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @TwinToddlersDad Q5: Disagree. Prob w/papers is they all carry AP stys abt POTUS. Don’t need that ex from NYT or WaPo. #journchat
@transpr: Q5 weekly print especially still holds strong position ad revenue-wise. Provide what no one else can. Loyal readers. #journchat
@KristenEJ: Q5: No, lots of the niche areas on Examiner have a different audience, more like another human interest area #journchat
@transpr: @elissapr I agree. Many projects I do, invest more in local ads due to costs and reach. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @podcaststeve From what I understand, it’s college students and new journalists taking the hyperlocal jobs for little pay #journchat
@jessicamalnik: @podcaststeve Q5: Agreed! A writer could spend a full day writing on Examiner & not get paid a penny. Better uses for my time. #journchat
@Jfavreau: @sarahzcordell I don’t even read the weekly newspaper I guess it is really read only if you have children or the older gen. #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @transpr Don’t forget that most local paper pubs also have (granted limited) online capabilities. #journchat
@NathanRKing: In some hyperlocal sites, the same person who writes about HS sports is reviewing restaurants. Lack of focus? #journchat
@transpr: Q5 Local journalism slower to get into online, but they can afford it now. Bigger media have more competition. #journchat
@wvpmc: Q5 shakeout will happen with hyperlocal online, many newbies competing for ad $$, print already entrenched in local market #journchat
@jimmcbee: q5: Maybe, but for last 10-20 years, local/reg. news pubs have been own worst enemies. Solve own probs first, I think. #journchat
@tatn: #journchat Q.5 Neither would hurt the regional/community pubs. writing fr. a large & urban city where there are plenty of niche pubs, imo.
@jessicamalnik: @logsmthd I agree! I rarely go to Examiner. Always get what I need from local publications and their blogs. #journchat
@NathanRKing: But hyperlocal news sites have the ability to provide detailed news in specific locations. #journchat
@bropo: Could/should/will grow RT @fredmcclimans @transpr Dont forget most local paper pubs also have (limited) online capabilities. #journchat
@thorstone137: Q5 1/2 Just as big money learned to monopolize the “democratizing” radio and television. Big money could monopolize the net. #journchat
@deegospel: q5: No. Everyone isn’t online reading news and some don’t plan to. That readership will continue to be serviced. #journchat
@podcaststeve: @amandanmarsh and film students shooting weddings for $50 a day… #journchat
@amandanmarsh: @NathanRKing I think Patch.com puts one journalist to a town beat – that’s why you’ll see the multi-focused writer #journchat
@logsmthd: Absolutely. Bunch of friends are. RT @amandanmarsh It’s college students & new journos taking the hyperlocal jobs for little pay. #journchat
@MediaCollective: Hyper local is great and can add to the info chain esp. if they feed up the food chain so to speek #journchat
@elissapr: Q5 Hyperlocal still has lucrative revenue model; my local (delivered 3x/week) filled w ads & flyers. And yes, I do scan them! #journchat
@juanasummers: Q5: Emerging local/hyperlocal sites need to define their purpose and mission. Do one thing well, not everything with mediocrity. #journchat
@bropo: Q5: here again we’re talking about the delivery mechanism: pen/ink vs. online. Wrong direction. Let’s move fwd. #journchat
@sarahzcordell: @jfavreau I do always check out the “what’s happening” that may be appropriate for the boy : ) #journchat
@kseniacoffman: @journchat i don’t view examiner as hyperlocal news – are they? #journchat
@deegospel: @elissapr q5 i scan and clip, too #journchat
@skiergrrl: Q5: Hyper-local, location-based reporting is the ultimate way to tap into the “ME” mentality. Which means … relevance & $ #journchat
@juanasummers: @kseniacoffman If it’s blocking my route home after work, I care. #journchat
@kseniacoffman: @NathanRKing But do ppl care about hyperlocal news? i.e. there’s a fatal crash on 101, that type of info? #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @transpr Online journalism infrastructure has become VERY cheap. Local pubs just need to avoid cheesy site developers. #journchat
@MediaCollective: People like hyper local papers for finding close by events, news etc. where they live, paper here incerts a hyperlocal inside #journchat
@transpr: Q5 hyperlocal to me is the weekly reporter who slogs to every zoning and planning meeting of local gov. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: @fredmcclimans great call on the cheesy site developers for local pubs! #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @kseniacoffman Local politics, crime, school-boards, taxes, business dev, road projects, community activities all big. #journchat
@elissapr: Q5 Hyper local also gives average person their 15 mins of fame; people want to read about themselves & neighbours #journchat
@MediaCollective: @kseniacoffman but they do care, xyz at the school board, city council votes, events, camps local sales ez 2 find & scan #journchat
@jessicamalnik: Absolutely! RT @elissapr: Q5 Hyperlocal also gives avr. person their 15 mins of fame; ppl want to read abt themselves & neighbors #journchat
@nataliebinder: Hyperlocal helps promote, inform re local businesses, too. #journchat
@transpr: Q5 I don’t see a time anytime soon when new online local news overtakes established locals. Not sure if enough revenues for all. #journchat
@bropo: Q5: I’m confused … is anyone saying do away with hyper local news? I don’t think so. #journchat
@deegospel: @elissapr 15 fame, helped me stay 4.0 my entire secondary ed/childhood life, loved seeing my name on A honor roll in local paper #journchat
@thorstone137: Q5 2/2 by easily offering web experiences beyond local budgets, but hyperlocal also has to illustrate true community values #journchat
@AsianStig: @journchat Q5 more competition means more news coverage. It’s up to the audience to decide who has the most accurate reporting. #journchat
@jfouts: @kseniacoffman There’s lots of types of hyperlocal. Look at metblogs for example. Great neighborhood contnet. #Journchat
@transpr: Agree, just wonder about revenue model. RT @elissapr: Q5 Hyper local also gives average person their 15 mins of fame… #journchat
@elissapr: @transpr Q5 Hyper local revenue model very old school…maybe that’s what keeps them thriving! #journchat
@wvpmc: Q5 also web analytics from online news often don’t >>enough ROI for ad buy for local biz #journchat
@fredmcclimans: @AsianStig Q5 Unfortunately, many readership/viewing audiences have become polarized by national agendas. #journchat
@jessicamalnik: @SaraBAllen Q5: Good point! Financial advice is important. Contributors need to have credentials to write about it. PERIOD. #journchat
@l3ahb3tan: Q5: It could push sites to raise the quality of their content vs. quantity. Or get more granular in w/ niche coverage. #journchat
@kseniacoffman: @jfouts Didn’t metblogs close down/go out of biz? #journchat Q5
@bropo: And then there are Drs Phil&Edell.. RT @logsmthd: RT @SaraBAllen Q5: Fin’l advice/need to have credentials to write about it. #journchat
@meganhealey Back to the topic, Q5: TV, def needs license, already kinda does. Print more difficult to define. What do u think, @got4hooves? #journchat
@meganhealey Q5: It’s not a license saying you can’t practice journalism…it’s an accreditation. #journchat
@nataliebinder: @lizpope @nathanrking, as if any paper can edit, pay thousands of contributors #journchat

@journchat: Q6 PER @MediaCollective Forbes.com will soon have 1K’s of unpaid contributors. New cred to citizen journs? http://tcrn.ch/aJhFhd #journchat

@SaraBAllen: Q6: CREEPY. When the economy is in recession I don’t want just anyone to get a column. Financial advice is serious. #journchat
@bropo: Q6: plethora of citjourns–goes back to understanding your sources, their backgrounds and perspectives. #journchat
@NathanRKing: Q6. Anyone know if forbes.com is editing/fact checking the contributors’ material? #journchat
@oscarmartinez: Q6: Headline says it all: ‘Death of a 1,000 hacks.’ People are willing to pay for information, but only if it’s valuable to them. #journchat
@logsmthd: Q6: While it does give more cred to citizen journos, it’s also taking cred away from Forbes.com. #journchat
@sherise_a: Good point! RT @SaraBAllen: Q6: CREEPY….in recession I don’t want just anyone to get a column. Financial advice is serious. #journchat
@juanasummers: Q6: Forbes should really think quality over quantity. I’m not convinced that this is going to serve their audience at all. #journchat
@evannicholson: Q6: I tend not to use sites like that. I favor local publications. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q6: This decision will definitely take away from the elite brand that Forbes has built for itself. #journchat
@AsianStig: @journchat Q6 I wonder how the citizen journalists have extra time to cover news. And they could be my competitors for next job. #journchat
@lizpope: Good Q — RT @NathanRKing: Q6. Anyone know if forbes.com is editing/fact checking the contributors material? #journchat
@bropo: Good Q. Or @least disclaiming. RT @NathanRKing: Q6. Anyone know if forbes.com is editing/fact chk’g the contributors material? #journchat
@elissapr: Q6 citizen journalism? Well, would you hire a ‘citizen plumber’ cuz they had an opionion on your drainage problem? #journchat
@RonSupportsYou: Q6 The unpaid contributors could have undisclosed conflicts of interest. #journchat
@KristenEJ: q6: Could go either way, however, it could turn into message board/really bad comments string #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q6: Why would any talented economist or financial advisor agree to write for free? Is Forbes a college newspaper? #journchat
@kseniacoffman: @elissapr I’m skeptical on citizen journalism as well; I’ll read blogs for opinion, but news sites for news #journchat Q6
@kseniacoffman: @NathanRKing Exactly! That’s why I prefer to read AP stories; at least they are fact checked. Q6 #journchat
@SaraBAllen: @nathanrking Q6: If Forbes can’t afford to pay writers I promise you they aren’t paying fact checkers. #journchat
@bropo: LOL! RT @elissapr: Q6 citizen journalism? Would you hire a citizen plumber cuz they had an opionion on your drainage problem? #journchat
@Danbo_4: Q6 As opposed to journalists who aren’t citizens? Expatriated journalists, perhaps? #journchat
@transpr: Q6 Not having to pay writers….dream of every media company #journchat
@jpbarley: Q6 The drive for pageviews is alarming…what was it that said a few weeks back that for every hard nosed piece writers…(more) #journchat
@logsmthd: Q6: I’m sure the contributors are held to the same standard, but it seems that anyone can be a contributor, if unpaid. #journchat
@moxiePR: Q6: That’s a positive start for CJ’s. Why not give them credit for info A LOT of ppl rely on? They have a nice impact on media #journchat
@jpbarley: (Q6cont) … had to fire out an article about ipads to keep their pageviews up… #journchat
@elissapr: @juanasummers Q6 Speaking of quantity, Forbes just asked all employees w twitter acct’s 2 help grow Steve Forbes’ twitter acc”t! #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Q6. I would rather see Forbes aggregate content (with permission) from trusted, knowledgeable bloggers if taking unpaid route. #journchat
@fmccaul: #journchat Q6 Can’t say I’ve been on forbes.com in a long time. Curiosity about this experiment will bring me back there, 4 a minute anyway
@deegospel: @RonSupportsYou q6: true #journchat
@elissapr: And every media mogul! RT @transpr Q6 Not having to pay writers….dream of every media company #journchat
@NathanRKing: Q6. Its not that I’m concerned they can’t pay writers. Forbes may just be experimenting with new formats. #journchat
@jimmcbee: Q6: The democrat in me is pleased to see everyone getting a megaphone; the journo wonders if he’ll ever work a paying gig again. #journchat
@wvpmc: Q6 harder and harder for great writers to to make a decent living – writing for “the exposure” – sad #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q6: Sites should be interactive.Not the same as allowing unpaid contributors. Forums/separate sections 4 interacting are cool. #journchat
@michaelcalienes: (forgot my hash @bropo @elissapr Q6 Re: “Citizen plumber” –> People do it every day. Liquid Plumr. #journchat
@transpr: Q6 If Forbes tried something new that cost more $$$, they wouldn’t do it. This is easy. Don’t pay writers. Hmmm #journchat
@bizMebizgal: Q6: It doesn’t fit the brand of Forbes and I think they will lose creditability if they move forward with that. #journchat
@jessicamalnik: @fmccaul Q6: This won’t lure me to Forbes. I only want contributors w/ appropriate credentials, to provide financial advice. #journchat
@bropo: And trendy RT @transpr: Q6 If Forbes tried something new that cost more $$$, they wouldnt do it. This is EZ. Dont pay writers. #journchat
@thorstone137: Q6 There’s a growing movement in social business strategies around building advocates “champions”. We’ll see more of this #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q6: The length to which sites go for page views these days is going to make the authentic journalist extinct #journchat
@deegospel: q6: the more i read the TechCrunch article the more i say “wt?” For citzjos this may tank their credibility, if this thing fails #journchat
@jessicamalnik: @bizMebizgal Agreed! This will damage their reputation, unless they have ppl fact-checking everything. (HIGHLY unlikely) #journchat
@transpr: Yes! RT @wvpmc: Q6 harder and harder for great writers to to make a decent living – writing for “the exposure” – sad #journchat
@deegospel: @transpr q6: it’s like driving in circles. we wrote for free in college & as interns, but dues have been paid now… #journchat
@tatn: @deegospel #journchat Q.6 I’m wondering what your thoughts are abt TechCrunch?
@fmccaul: @jessicamalnik Great point on wanting cred for Forbes writers. I am curious enough to check it out but it may only be once #journchat
@kseniacoffman: @MediaCollective Page views will def start driving compensation for reporters – soon? #journchat Q6
@thorstone137: Q6 Yes. Citizen journalists can be a journalist’s “champions” that help hyper-local or niche journalism with community voice #journchat.
@l3ahb3tan: Q6: Eh, possibly. But what movtivation/incentive is in place so there’s quality content posted regularly over long-term? #journchat
@transpr: Big Right on! RT @deegospel: @transpr q6: we wrote for free in college & as interns, but dues have been paid… #journchat
@bropo: Good/bad. More pers mktg? RT @kseniacoffman: @MediaCollective Page views will def start driving comp for reporters – soon? Q6 #journchat
@michaelcalienes: New world. New dues. RT @transpr: Right on! RT @deegospel: @transpr q6: Wrote 4 free in college & as interns, dues have been paid #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB: Q6 experimenting w/ new formats is great but the credibility & fact checking has to remain consistent #journchat
@sherise_a: #journchat perhaps citizen journalism is going too far. To get an immediate picture of some fascinating disaster is one thing, but Forbes?
@loringbarnes Q6: @Forbes has had citizen journalists for years. Just volume and branding is changing #journchat.
@jessicamalnik @fmccaul I just lost a lot of respect for Forbes. Do u trust your barber to give financial advice? Think about it. #journchat
@deegospel @michaelcalienes q6: Honey, dues have been paid. Citjos better learn how to monetize their content. quick, fast & in a hurry #journchat
@michaelcalienes @deegospel q6: If you’re making an honest, happy living why bother worrying what any citjo’s doing or not doing? #journchat

@journchat: Q7 PER @tatn What do you think about @citizentube being offered to pro & citizen journalists?http://bit.ly/8YEWZN #journchat

@MediaCollective: Q7 PER @tatn What do you think about @citizentube being offered to pro & citizen journalists?http://bit.ly/8YEWZN #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q7. I like it. The more “channels” for news, the better. #journchat
@logsmthd: Q7: Like the idea, but pro & citizen journos should be separated or labeled differently. #journchat
@logsmthd: Agree. RT @nataliebinder: Q7. I like it. The more “channels” for news, the better. #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Q7. Given that many popular videos on YouTube are staged, I’d be hesitant to watch CT video unless connected to known news story #journchat
@SaraBAllen: Q7: That’s so cool. Youtube should do more with editorial and organizing news. #journchat
@MediaCollective: Q7 News Feed they decide or I the user? Perspectives on “newsworthy” are individual, have recommended & opted in would b better #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q7. I’d like to see preference for story/subject/tags, not just time/date. #journchat
@jessicamalnik: Agreed! RT @logsmthd: Q7: The videos definitely need to be sorted, labeled, etc. before users can watch them. #journchat
@thorstone137: Q7 Finally.. #journchat
@jpbarley: Q7 Or CNN’s iReport?…It’s an inevitable shift for modern insider news, think @2drinksbehind when he tweeted after a plane crash #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Q7. Or connected to known news outlet. It’s easier to compare a written story to another, but not easy for videos #journchat
@juanasummers: Q7: As a news consumer, there’s no way I’d ever check @citizentube out. It reminds me of @newsydotcom, and not in a good way. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR: Q7: element of video makes this a cool experiment, you get both vets & newbies in one place…maybe labels to separate though? #journchat
@logsmthd: Q7: The videos definitely need to be sorted, labeled, etc. before users can watch them. #journchat
@amandanmarsh Q7. Or connected to known news outlet. It’s easier to compare a written story to another, but not easy for videos #journchat
@jpbarley Q7 Or CNN’s iReport?…It’s an inevitable shift for modern insider news, think@2drinksbehind when he tweeted after a plane crash #journchat
@juanasummers Q7: As a news consumer, there’s no way I’d ever check @citizentube out. It reminds me of @newsydotcom, and not in a good way. #journchat
@KristenEJ Q7: Good idea for journo students who want to build tapes and cred, bad idea for those using it just for explosions and crime #journchat
@deegospel q7 my only concern – like my concern with much citvidjo are permissions.#journchat
@elissapr Q7 Audience views will determine @citizentube’s longterm viability. #journchat
@loringbarnes @SaraBAllen I’d expect topics are wide ranging, networking, career, leadership… not all hard core $ writing. #journchat
@MediaCollective @evannicholson have a good night. #journchat
@meganhealey @karamat Journalists cover life and death topics as much, if not more, than meteorologists tho! I can name many I’ve covered. #journchat
@niltiac @evannicholson Reporters don’t edit their own stories. If PP happens, it’s done at behest of editor & assigned to someone junior. #journchat
@richardfeindel @journchat Q7 Second phase of their YouTube Direct strategy. They will lean heavily on UGC/video submitted locally. Smart. #journchat
@tatn #journchat Q.7 While @citizentube is valuable, but the concern is the story line & authentication of footage, i.e. some Iranelection clips
@elissapr @tatn Agree…@citizentube could be great for the gullible! #journchat
@fredmcclimans @logsmthd What do you think about Newsy (interesting regurgitated video w/nice iPad app)? #journchat
@thorstone137 Q7 This type of “real – time” aggregation is what you charge for (also good for ads!). Then you print the established fact.. #journchat
@l3ahb3tan Q7: YT is tapping into its strength as distrib. channel & the feed brings focus to timely news content #journchat
@bropo Q7 increases my concerns about already escalating violence from those who want to “make news.” #journchat
@elissapr @l3ahb3tan then maybe youtube should start their own viable news channel – a credible TMZ? #journchat
@SaraBAllen Q7: The reason youtube hasn’t done news before is because of the video quality. Should crap videos make it into this new section? #journchat
@logsmthd Q7: There should be standards put in place fro the videos that are submitted/uploaded for the website. #journchat
@thorstone137 Q7 True if the authentic journalist is guilty of it.False if they’re engaged in the community they serve.Engagement has the edge #journchat
@AsianStig @journchat Q7 anyone can send in video that could be newsworthy. The difference is that pros should verify the accuracy of vids. #journchat
@SaraBAllen @loringbarnes I think Youtube could produce their own documentaries and hard core $ writing and we would watch. #journchat
@tatn #journchat Q.7 Some of the Iran election footage weren’t authenticated & later discovered that they were edited & processed by opposition!
@lizpope: @nataliebinder CNN iReport allows anyone to contribute, but only certain stories are “vetted” by CNN. Along the same lines maybe? #journchat
@NathanRKing @jpbarley I like CNN’s iReport section – its a new way for them find news and rewarding for citizens. Win/Win. #journchat
@MattLaCasse @elissapr For what it’s worth, TMZ is pretty credible. Highly unethical, but fairly credible I would say. #journchat
@tatn @MattLaCasse TMZ paid for stringers & stalkers lurking about the bushes, tho they’re good w/scandals, but not news, e.g. BP etc. #journchat
@elissapr @MattLaCasse I wld agree – the element of surpirse (or ambush!) on TMZ gives viewers honest reaction & no spin. #journchat
@MattLaCasse @elissapr Absolutely. TMZ is shady as hell, but you can’t argue with their results. #journchat
@deegospel @tatn don’t laugh…(stop)…TMZ did break MJ’s death…that’s about as good as they will get imo…don’t laugh #journchat
@logsmthd @nataliebinder @MattLaCasse If I’m heading to a news site, I want news. I’ll go to a gossip site if I want Celeb dirt. #journchat

@journchat Q8 by @SherriJonesPR “The length to which sites go for page views these days is going to make authentic journ extinct” T or F? #journchat

@KristenEJ Q8: True in one sense, but as evidenced by HARO, experts will always be needed for news stories #journchat
@MediaCollective Q8 by @SherriJonesPR “The length to which sites go for page views these days is going to make authentic journ extinct” T or F? #journchat
@juanasummers Q8: False. Smart SEO and consistent reputable content will bring page views, not sensationalism. #journchat
@nataliebinder Q8, Define authentic journalism. Papers have always embarrassed themselves for page views. “If it bleeds, it leads.” #journchat
@MediaCollective Q8 F, the accurate story, historians writers of events will always be there, they just will adapt & be multi functional #journchat
@lorakolodny @journchat Q8 – Threat is T. But ultimately F. Thankfully! Past example: TV is ratings- based. But we still have Frontline. #journchat
@tomhanaway Q8: The blogs/sites that discredit the page-view- whoring sites will have the most view of them all #journchat
@MattLaCasse Q8 False. I think most folks want hard, thoughtful, intelligent news. Not latest gimmick to draw pageviews. Gimmicks backfire #journchat
@bropo Well said. RT @nataliebinder: Q8 Papers have always embarrassed themselves for page views. “If it bleeds, it leads.” #journchat
@deegospel q8: false. well, first, define authentic. There’ll be sites who’ll brand & pride themselves on providing news. #journchat
@elissapr Q8 FAlse. Traditional media has been doing that for years; the more eyeballs, the bigger the circulation; more ad $$. #journchat
@SaraBAllen Q8: Google ad words is working on eliminating fraud where you hit the competitions site so often it drives up his ad costs. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR Q8: i.e. TMZ credible just not the true journalistic effort #journchat
@fmccaul Q8 False, I hope! People still seek truth and real, relevant news. But there will always be a market for salacious garbage too. #journchat
@nataliebinder @logsmthd @MattLaCasse Q8, people *say* they want thoughtful news, but really want the latest on Palin implant rumors. #journchat
@AsianStig @journchat Q8 authentic journalism will continue to survive as long as journos keep writing attention grabbing headlines & blurbs #journchat

@journchat Q9 You’ve got one tweet to sum up what you’ve learned (thus far) in your profession. What do you share? #journchat

@karamat @journchat Q9 That the hardest working, most ethical reporters aren’t always the ones rewarded the most. #journchat
@MediaCollective Q9 You’ve got one tweet to sum up what you’ve learned (thus far) in your profession. What do you share? #journchat
@amandanmarsh Q9. You’re always going to be working your ass off. #journchat
@MediaCollective Q9 thats a tough one, brains on fire #journchat
@SherriJonesPR Q9: Relationship is everything! Taking networking the extra step forward from behind the computer screen is essential. #journchat
@tomhanaway Q9: In journalism, you will make mistakes. Pout/cry/get over it, then write a story 10x better. Be a phoenix, not a sitting duck #journchat
@JummyWTKR @journchat good story telling goes a long way #journchat
@KristenEJ Research, adapt and have many paths and income streams #journchat
@cascheller @journchat You’d better love it, because it ain’t gonna’ make you rich.#journchat
@logsmthd Q9: Always keep yourself educated and ahead of current trends. You never want to fall behind. #journchat
@nataliebinder Q9. There’s no such thing as “new media” and “old media.” Just good writing and bad writing. #journchat
@SaraBAllen Q9: Enthusiasm is the most important thing in a career. If you don’t have it someone with more energy will eat you up. #journchat
@elissapr Q9 At the ned of the day, the public will determine what is news. #journchat
@jessicamalnik Q9: If you want change, be prepared for lots of kicking & screaming on the way. Ppl aren’t as open to change as they say they are #journchat
@jimmcbee q9: What I’ve learned abt. journalism may no longer be relevant. D#journchat:
@juanasummers Q9: No matter how long you’ve been in the field, you can always learn something new, even from someone unexpected. #journchat
@katedavis12 Q9 Do absolutely all you can the best you can at work each day, so you can go to bed at night knowing you did all you could. #journchat
@AmericanHYPE So true! RT @elissapr: Q9 At the end of the day, the public will determine what is news. #journchat
@jessicamalnik Absolutely! RT @elissapr: RT @cascheller: @journchat You’d better love it, because it ain’t gonna make you rich. #journchat
@mr_mcfly So true! RT @elissapr: Q9 At the end of the day, the public will determine what is news. #journchat
@yelvington Q9: OK open systems beat great closed systems every time. Deal with it.#journchat
@deegospel q9: be nice #journchat
@elissapr But it can make you popular!! RT @juanasummers @cascheller: @journchat Youd better love it, because it aint gonna make you rich. #journchat
@fulldetroit #journchat A journalism career is nasty, brutish and short….if you are lucky
@MattLaCasse Q9 Love your work, but love your live outside of work more. #journchat
@richardfeindel Couldn’t have said it better. RT @jessicamalnik: Q9: If you want change, be prepared for lots of kicking & screaming on the way.. #journchat
@deegospel @jimmcbee q9: most heartbreaking tweet i’ve read ever #journchat
@jimmcbee Heh @fulldetroit: #journchat A journalism career is nasty, brutish and short….if you are lucky #journchat
@juanasummers @fulldetroit Ouch. That one stung a little bit. I’d like to hope not all experiences in the field begin and end that way. #journchat
@missversatile Q9) Be legit w/ reasons for writing, be responsible for content, be open w/ readership about advertisers, be open to change #journchat
@RonSupportsYou Q9 There will always be change. We have to adapt. Some things that should not change are our principles and our standards. #journchat
@thorstone137 Q9 Understand and be honest about your level of social intelligence.#journchat
@allanschoenberg Agree and PR people need to get better at this RT @JummyWTKR:@journchat good story telling goes a long way #journchat
@elissapr Q9 Embrace change. You have no choice! #journchat
@fmccaul #journchat Q9 Keep an open mind!
@AsianStig @journchat Q9 this is a very competitive profession. Make connections, update your skills, and you might make it w/ a longshot. #journchat
@allanschoenberg Good one RT @tracybb: RT @logsmthd: Q9: Always keep yourself educated and ahead of current trends. You never want to fall behind #journchat
@MsKita_MsSB Q9 build quality relationships, stay thirsty for knowledge, change is the norm & the ability to adapt is a MUST, & consistency #journchat
@allanschoenberg Work 2 live; don’t live 2 work I say RT @MattLaCasse: Q9 Love your work, but love your live outside of work more. #journchat
@tatn #Journchat Q.9 by all means become skilled and be ready to adapt to technology, but the basic journalistic skills must be up to snuff.
@deegospel @SaraBAllen q9: that one thing makes or breaks me daily. #journchat
@AndrewDonovan Never stop learning, always continue meeting new people, always remain curious and most importantly always remain 100% authentic #journchat
@MattLaCasse @allanschoenberg Exactly Allan! Maybe I don’t get the corner office, but I’m OK w/ that. #journchat

@journchat FINAL Q (Q10) PER @NikkiBurdine Should journalists have their own license? Do they need? Yes? No? Why? #journchat

@elissapr Q10 OMG..that’s a heavy one to end with! #journchat
@juanasummers Q10: Absolutely not. Who would come up with the qualifications ? I don’t want anyone else telling me what journalism is & isn’t. #journchat
@karamat @journchat Q10 I’ve said enough. #journchat
@SherriJonesPR Q10: License should be used as distinction,not as permission to write..but there may come a time when it is a necessity. #journchat
@deegospel RT Q10 PER @NikkiBurdine Should journalists have their own license? Do they need? Yes? No? Why? #journchat
@logsmthd Q10: No way! There’s not one test that covers all types of journ (ie the bar exam, etc.) Plus it would eliminate freelance, etc. #journchat
@MattLaCasse Q10 I don’t think individual journs need a license. Perhaps liscencing outlets is a solution? #journchat
@NathanRKing Q10. If someone is not good at what they do, a license won’t make them any better. #journchat
@nikkiburdine Q10 The license could be offered by a credible association, like @rtdna or@spj_tweets #journchat
@elissapr Rupert Murdoch?? Bloggers? CitJourn’s? RT @juanasummers Q10: Absolutely not. Who would come up with the qualifications ? #journchat
@juanasummers Q10: It would make a one-size fits all definition for what a journalist is. We need more people on the ground telling stories. #journchat
@jimmcbee q10: License from whom, to what end? ‘Congress shall make no law …abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press ….’ #journchat
@logsmthd Q10: All journos are different and requiring licenses would create a blanket definition of what a journo is. #journchat
@nataliebinder Q10 OTOH, I’m an FCC licensed ham operator. Simple, community enforced rules/etiquette are good for all in radio. #journchat
@tracybb Q10 We already have laws for libel and slander. That covers it. We do have the right to free speech and all journalism is biased. #journchat
@JummyWTKR @journchat Q10 i think the benefits of licensing outweigh the negatives. i would vote yes for journalist licenses. #journchat
@tatn @journchat #journchat I don’t think it’s necessary bc there are too many diverse skills & background education, i.e. war, finance, fashion
@elissapr Q10 Don’t think a license wld be seen as credible; if I have a fishing license, it doesn’t mean I can fish (my theme 4 the nite!) #journchat
@SaraBAllen Q10: I think socialistic countries have licensed journalists. It’s very USSR circa the 1980′s. #journchat
@AsianStig @journchat Q10 It’s not necessary to be licensed in order to be a journalist. That could infringe rights of free speech & press. #journchat
@CarolyBurnsBass Q10 License for journos? Isn’t there already enough bureaucracy? Who would issue license? How to qualify, etc. #journchat
@deegospel q10: Freedom of the press already answered this question. However, I understand the concern. But I think lawsuits may balance it. #journchat
@logsmthd Q10: Licensing opens too many doors of government intervention that isn’t necessary. #journchat
@marcrboudreau Q10 YES. Why? See http://bit.ly/9ppSEf for why. #journchat
@tracybb Wow. Interesting fact. RT @SaraBAllen: Q10: I think socialistic countries have licensed journalists. Very USSR circa the 1980s. #journchat
@CarolyBurnsBass: Q10 License for journos? Isn’t there already enough bureaucracy? Who would issue license? How to qualify, etc. #journchat
@deegospel: q10: Freedom of the press already answered this question. However, I understand the concern. But I think lawsuits may balance it. #journchat
@JummyWTKR: @journchat think of the difference between a “weatherforcaster” and a “meterologist” …kinda like an AMS or NWS seal of approval #journchat
@deegospel: @elissapr q10 fish theme. lol oh my goodness #journchat
@brandonwnbc2: @NikkiBurdine Q10 how would they go about the licensing process? Test? Degree? #journchat
@nataliebinder: Q10 Being part of major media outlet functions same as license anyway (access, credibility, visibility). #journchat
@deegospel: @tracybb q10: i agree. social media does help take bad articles to the carpet. lawsuits would shut some rags down #journchat
@nikkiburdine: Q10 I just don’t understand why a journalist wouldn’t want to be accredited. #whatareyouafriadof? #journchat
@jimmcbee: q10: Has anyone proposed/developed an actual journalism license (apart from doomed Mich. bill)? Be interesting to see. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: #journchat Q10 could also weed out the people who only want to be on TV.
@fulldetroit: #journchat your publication gives you credibility or you give your pub cred. Lawyers and doctors should be licensed. Journos no.
@nikkiburdine: #journchat Q10 you wouldn’t hire a contractor without a license? Why listen to a journalist talking about important issues?
@JummyWTKR: exactly RT @nikkiburdine: Q10 I just don’t understand why a journalist wouldn’t want to be accredited. #whatareyouafriadof? #journchat
@brandonwnbc2: @NikkiBurdine Q10 at the same time, I don’t think ppl realize the power they have in not listening/not watching/not buying #journchat
@nataliebinder Q10 No. There’s no way to create an honest licensing body. #journchat
@SaraBAllen Q10: Not like poetic license where you can say whatever you want. Poetry is poetry because you can include how you feel. #journchat obvi?
@karamat: @NikkiBurdine As far as I remember, @Aeikens correct me if wrong, SPJ doesn’t support licensing of journos. #journchat
@juanasummers: @nikkiburdine I have trouble imagining what across-the-board standard for a journalist would look like. Intriguing concept tho. #journchat
@jeremymlong: @nikkiburdine Back to the freelancer issue. There are some terrible freelancers out there that would technically be licensed. #journchat
@karamat: @NikkiBurdine I’m an SPJ member & I’m pretty sure that there was discussion a few yrs ago that got no support. #journchat
@nikkiburdine: @ashleymonfort has a good point. We hold our sources and everyone else accountable, why shouldnt we be held accountable as well? #journchat
@juanasummers: @NikkiBurdine I believe good work should stand on its own. No label, gold standard or anything can take quality away from you. #journchat
@fulldetroit: #journchat The best ideas will win out. Licensing journos would create two tiers of free speech.
@meganhealey: @juanasummers If bloggers are allowed access to everything, why not just open it to the public? First come, first served? #journchat
@meganhealey: @got4hooves It’s not “state-run” Jen! It wouldn’t be a gov’t-mandated license. Love ya though;) #journchat
@elissapr: @deegospel Fish, plumbers…some train of thought I have tonight! #journchat
@nikkiburdine: @SaraBAllen It’s not the govt issuing the license. A credible org like @RTDNA or a college. A “gold standard” to hold yourself to #journchat
@rsylvester: @karamat SPJ idea came frm Walter Cronkite, suggesting “gold standard” as @NikkiBurdine said. Ppl said too close to licensing. #journchat
@amandanmarsh @SherriJonesPR If you want distinction versus permission, there should be an accreditation to show hard work and honesty #journchat
@juanasummers @meganhealey Many journalists belong to numerous professional organizations. How would accreditation be different? #journchat
@nikkiburdine true! RT @meganhealey: @karamat Journalists cover life and death topics as much, if not more, than meteorologists tho! #journchat

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@tomhanaway: #onepitch See how one college is letting 3 students be the voice of the school via blogging:http://ow.ly/1YvQP #journchat
@allanschoenberg: My #ONEPITCH #journchat I’m in NYC this week speaking at this Ragan event - http://bit.ly/bSI1O2you can follow using #SM4Finance
@UWOshJournalism: #onepitch See how our PR class is using Twitter in the classroom. Check out the #UWOshPR tag. #journchat
@jimmcbee: #onepitch Into news design, graphics, photos? Join us Tuesdays, 9 pm eastern for #vizedschat It’s free! #journchat
@juanasummers: #onepitch: Check out KCFreePress.com – I’d love your thoughts on what we’re doing/how we can improve. And follow me @jmsummers #journchat
@amandanmarsh: Looking to connect to more journalists/PR folks in the NY metro – always interested in hearing about events, Tweetups #onepitch #journchat
@nataliebinder: My #onepitch is for the Refuge House in #Tallahassee. Rough time for this women’s shelter. Send money, food. http://bit.ly/aJ0ByO #journchat

Other great tweets:

@transpr: @fredmcclimans Unfortunately, many are doing it cheap! BUt, getting there. #journchat
@nataliebinder: Sometimes it’s nice just to have a paper in your hands. Local dailies rule. #journchat
@NathanRKing: There’s a place for both regional and hyperlocal news #journchat
@karamat: @NikkiBurdine That’s something entirely different, than. OK. #journchat
@karamat: @MeganHealey I’m just curious why you think it’s necessary. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac But then it’s the writer’s objectivity that is questionable, not the “2nd-rate rag.” #journchat
@MediaCollective: Maybe, Journo vs citizen defined in sig? “chief product officer” (not editor) used to own crowdsourced news site, True/Slant, #journchat
@nataliebinder: @loringbarnes I also know a lot of older people who watch Fox for political reasons. #journchat
@MediaCollective: Maybe writers should be like musicians, royalities per view… #journchat
@loringbarnes: @bropo True, an A-lister from top tier newspaper. Shocking but true. #journchat
@meganhealey: @karamat Too many bloggers gaining access that only traditional media would normally get. It’s about fairness (within our field). #journchat
@NathanRKing: I like the way @SEOmoz has their blog plus a separate area (YouMoz) for contributors. Nice example of CJ… #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson Eg. A blogger is paid by Starbucks. In any post that briefly mentions coffee or cafes, they always refer Starbucks #journchat
@jimmcbee: I’m not convinced pre-recession finance journalism was all that great to begin with. Who sez Joe Schmoe’s dumber? #journchat
@transpr: @bropo Yep. And it’s working as we are all Tweeting about it! #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson In the Starbucks example, I think the blogger should disclose. But not because it’s journalism. Same for movies. #journchat
@karamat: @MeganHealey Access? Specifics, please. Why can’t a blogger who has a monsterous audience get the same access as a trad journo? #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson I agree it wouldn’t look good for the reporter (if the piece is even actually by-lined) but it’s not their fault. #journchat
@deegospel: @transpr And…! without relevant & respectable content, in the long run… I see the writing on the wall. #journchat
@niltiac: @evannicholson It’s never happened at any newspapers I’ve worked for. It’s more common that negative coverage would get pulled. #journchat
@loringbarnes: @lorakolodny Connect w/ me offline. In truth, I have to do business with this reporter. They are the beat gatekeeper. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac It basically becomes situational whether it should be disclosed or not. #journchat
@fredmcclimans: There is a big difference between a Coke cup sitting in front of Randy Jackson vs Brian Williams! #journchat
@karamat: @JummyWTKR @meganhealey I’m not talking about credible — Megan said access. #journchat
@meganhealey: @karamat I think they get access, but separate of the traditional media, especially in a “breaking news” scenario. #journchat
@karamat: @MeganHealey I guess I just don’t follow your argument. #journchat
@evannicholson: @niltiac Reporter should probably take it upon himself/herself to make sure not in that situation (i.e. by disclosing). #journchat
@karamat @meganhealey What about freelancers? #journchat
@MediaCollective @bropo you got it, sounds like pennies, but believe me, they pile up fast, would be masters of their own words #journchat
@nataliebinder So many great articles linked on #journchat. Would be great if we could publish them in a monthly/weekly aggregator.
@karamat @NikkiBurdine @meganhealey But does that mean they can’t have “access”?#journchat
@MediaCollective @nataliebinder you can fav. your liked links, there is a FB app that pulls in twitter favs to your wall or tab. #journchat
@niltiac @evannicholson Decision whether or not to disclose is about the publication’s policy. Any attempt by writer would be edited out. #journchat
@AsianStig @fredmcclimans well, in a way, politics has influenced news coverage and polarized the audience. #journchat
@deegospel @nataliebinder wow, that is a good idea. if @journchat needed a volunteer i could help with that #journchat
@fredmcclimans @bropo Guess which one doesn’t have Coke, Dawg? (a Coke cup sitting in front of Randy Jackson vs Brian Williams!) #journchat
@karamat @MeganHealey Me as well. I guess I just don’t understand your argument for licensing. #journchat
@meganhealey @karamat That’s fine too! It’s a touchy subject that is definitely up for debate:) Keep it coming! #journchat
@meganhealey @karamat I also like that you’re a #Cuse grad! My lil sis just graduated there 3 weeks ago. #journchat
@yelvington All journos should find a way to be the subject of someone else’s story. It’s sobering and sometimes terrifying. #journchat
@bropo @fredmcclimans No way! Haven’t I seen it? Or is the new vitamin water?#journchat
@niltiac @evannicholson PP is not always appropriate even with disclosure (eg. news IMHO). When it IS done it should ALWAYS be disclosed. #journchat
@tatn @elissapr glad you recognize my concerns as mentioned earlier, even amid Iran election,the opposition threw in concocted footage #journchat
@elissapr @tatn exactly! And this applies to every extremist group out there, looking to manipulate the message. #journchat
@fredmcclimans @AsianStig It is an interesting circle – does politics shape opinion/news or does opinion really shape politics? Lead vs Follow? #journchat
@jimmcbee Well said, @yelvington: All journos should find a way to be the subject of someone elses story. Sobering, sometimes terrifying. #journchat
@deegospel @tatn you just made me laugh with the gullible tweeet. lol #journchat
@bropo Good question. Not a lot of gutsy leadership out there, even at the top … sadly.@fredmcclimans, @AsianStig #journchat
@tatn Well said RT @elissapr @tatn exactly! And this applies to every extremist group out there, looking to manipulate the message. #journchat
@fredmcclimans @bropo Supposedly, each judge fills their cup with their fav drink. Integrity? Just a rumor… #journchat
@JummyWTKR @jimmcbee @yelvington i’ve been the subject of a story once. and youre right. it was very sobering. #journchat
@MattLaCasse @nataliebinder As my old news director said, “Play the hits”. #journchat
@nataliebinder Back to the early Q about BB… Singapore may soon beat USA on Internet speed http://nyti.ms/ctcvpB #journchat.
@deegospel @michaelcalienes i’m not worried; i answered a question; & btw i have been in citjos shoes, so i speak with authority #journchat
@soozeequew Being the subj. of someone else’s story? That may be me tomorrow. Scary, indeed. #journchat
@deegospel @michaelcalienes thanks. writers have it hard period. there needs to be a reversal of value placed on writers #journchat
@AsianStig @fredmcclimans the traditional gates and walls have fallen, and everyone wants to be the gatekeeper of the information cluster. #journchat
@MattLaCasse @nataliebinder @logsmthd I disagree. SOME people do, but I think the majority prefer intelligence. I’m afraid I’m an optimist. #journchat
@jessicamalnik @elissapr I agree! But, be prepare for a fight. Ppl aren’t as open to change as they as they say they are. #journchat
@elissapr @jessicamalnik Yes! “And that which does not kill us…” well, you know the rest…#journchat
@jessicamalnik @elissapr I agree! But, be prepared for a fight. Ppl aren’t as open to change as they say they are. #journchat #journchat
@MattLaCasse @logsmthd @nataliebinder Couldn’t agree more. I don’t click on sensationalistic stories on CNN etc. Vote w/ your “clicks” #journchat
@cascheller Can anyone else say Amen?: ) #journchat
@deegospel @jimmcbee not down, but the 9yr old in me screams “No fair.” I wonder when we look back in a decade will there be much regret #journchat
@tracybb @lucyl80 I believe they buy them. They are trusted because they are independent and don’t take PR pitches. #journchat
@JummyWTKR @MattLaCasse so true! i need to work on that! i hang out with journalists, watch the news 24-7…i need to stop! lol #journchat
@karamat: @marcrboudreau I don’t get it. #journchat
@meganhealey: @juanasummers @got4hooves At least for certain situations requiring immediate coverage, like emergencies & state/national events. #journchat
@jfouts: @KseniaCoffman there we going to but there’s been a revival. #Journchat
@atwittysend: @sarahzcordell – excellent point & since blogs tend to “in-between” w/o editors, etc. – thin line likely always crossed. #journchat
@diana_parks: #journchat Q.14 Journalism schools’ admissions are up although these students are trained in a slew of techno & media apps. Different gen.
@JummyWTKR: @BlaineStewart you should follow @journchat and join nxt weeks discussion! #journchat

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